Panzer steering on Streetfox
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By "Tank Levers" do you mean pushing the left lever forward to turn right, and vice versa? If so you are probably interested in under seat steering, which pivots the steering under the seat, with levers that often come up at the riders side, where they are steered just as you would anything else, but with longer handles to reach the hands. If that's not what you're talking about, then please elaborate. I'm sure the folks around here will be glad to help you figure something out 
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You mean something like this?
Push and pull bars with a steering link across the two wheels giving Ackerman angles. If so then yes such a system can be employed on any tadpole trike including the Streetfox. As to how you need to set up the steering link first as per the std Streetfox then make the top arms on the uprights. Note how much the top arm moves from lock to lock and then work out how much bar movement you'd like to have to operate that movement range bearing in mind the bar lengths above and below it's pivot. IMO it's much nicer than dropping bars into the uprights and moving them left and right and feels fairly similar to under seat steering which the Warrior uses.
Push and pull bars with a steering link across the two wheels giving Ackerman angles. If so then yes such a system can be employed on any tadpole trike including the Streetfox. As to how you need to set up the steering link first as per the std Streetfox then make the top arms on the uprights. Note how much the top arm moves from lock to lock and then work out how much bar movement you'd like to have to operate that movement range bearing in mind the bar lengths above and below it's pivot. IMO it's much nicer than dropping bars into the uprights and moving them left and right and feels fairly similar to under seat steering which the Warrior uses.
That's exactly what I need.You mean something like this?
Push and pull bars with a steering link across the two wheels giving Ackerman angles. If so then yes such a system can be employed on any tadpole trike including the Streetfox. As to how you need to set up the steering link first as per the std Streetfox then make the top arms on the uprights. Note how much the top arm moves from lock to lock and then work out how much bar movement you'd like to have to operate that movement range bearing in mind the bar lengths above and below it's pivot. IMO it's much nicer than dropping bars into the uprights and moving them left and right and feels fairly similar to under seat steering which the Warrior uses.
Is there a preferred angle to run the control arms (tabs) off of the spindle?
Thank you
I originally had a similar setup to the photo above on the StreetFighter Quad. Instead of front to back though, mine were left and right levers. I actually found it to be the best feeling steering design I have ever made but decided it was too strange for the DIY plan.
One day I may create a DeltaWolf V2 and use the design.
Brad
One day I may create a DeltaWolf V2 and use the design.
Brad
The Slingshot Trike had front / back lever as well. I think this was from the 70s...
No issues. That yellow Slingshot is one of mine. I have six. The key is to have your castor, camber, and toe-in set correctly. Read about Ackerman angle if you aren't familiar. I would have to measure mine but I think the castor on the Slingshot is about 6°. Camber is very little...a degree or two if I remember correctly. I want to say I run mine almost neutral on toe-in but my memory is fuzzy.
Only at the lever end , you need rod end bearings at both ends the wheel end swings around the kingpin moving that end towards and away from the frame. A small amount of out of line horizontal and/or vertical will work in may just limit the turning circle a little.
Some UK quad pedal cars are designed like that.
Paul
Maybe I will do a basic Ackerman, Centerpoint, Caster video tutorial for the Tutorials Section of the site.
Nothing too wordy, just the basic rules that usually result in good steering on trikes and quads.
I will base it on these diagrams...
Nothing too wordy, just the basic rules that usually result in good steering on trikes and quads.
I will base it on these diagrams...
DannyC
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Well Brad only said based on these drawings , you could also argue 80' is the head tube and 10' is the caster.
Obvious Ackerman is only 10' in some situations , however if you have a rule of thumb to find it then it will be easy to implement ?
Paul
